View Full Version : 1938 DD gem ms-66 ngc
Paddy54
11-17-2024, 11:44 PM
1938 D/D ms -66 buffalo nickel Gem ngc graded .ms 66
johnny9434
11-18-2024, 02:32 PM
that sure is a pretty coin, i like
Paddy54
11-18-2024, 06:44 PM
Here's another one that you should be able to see Rusty....
Paddy54
11-18-2024, 10:32 PM
Now here's another view with shading to show the mm better. However I have been doing some research...and have hit a wall as Ive found items that are die markers on other known variety. After studing the mm there were two styles of MM used for the san fran mm and the 1937 S "S" mm that was punched over with the "D" was a small " S" mm. That said the smaller S would be again to small to protrude to the North....of the "D" mm. As well be seen though the center of the "D"...none the less be seen below the "D" mm bottom.
To my eye in order for a D/S to match up North center and South would be centering the "D" over mint mark precisely.
The specimen the ms 66 D/S "S " is seen touching the E foot in FIVE as well reaches over to the C in Cents with only a small piece seen in the upper NW opening of the " D". So it can no way be seen South of the "D" .
The serifs are split on Five Cents , there's other doubling present,as well a double initial the F and half an F on the rim at 6/7k .
rzage
11-19-2024, 04:14 AM
Nice one for sure . I can see something happening ! Under the D , inside the D and what looks like a line joining the letters E and C ! :)
Paddy54
11-19-2024, 11:27 PM
So a little more research finds that the entire series that were minted in San Francisco only two mint mark stlyes were used. The first type S has a dot in the upper loop of the S.
What else I've looked at is all known RPM's to see placement of mm's.
Next checked known DDR's for the series as this specimen isnt a major ddr but to my eye it is a ddr. Split serifs" five cents".
There's several areas on the coin that to my eye shows abrasion heavy file lines tell me this die was reworked not a fresh new die.
The flat obv. Strike another clue to perhaps the date on the reworked obv. Die.
Understand that the US mint was tooling up for a design change. That said the 1938 S dies were not shipped to San Francisco but to Denver to cut cost of the last run of a series ending.
The dies reworked somewhat... then were used to strike the last of the buffalo series.
To my knowledge there has been two D/S buffalos that been removed from their previous listings as a D/S variety.
Now another consideration is the date were horded in rolls for years!
The possibilities of new discovery coins is very possible as older collectors pass. Their hoards now again or perhasp for the first time seeing the daylight of circulating into the market place.
Now Until the specimen is in hand??? Stay tuned lol.
Paddy54
11-23-2024, 10:02 PM
Still waiting on the coin to land...however another artifact noticed on the coin. One that is a pretty neat and maybe it will be the major pup for this variety. Lathe lines....at first just thought this die had been worked pretty good to resurface. As you can see quite a few file lines. However if you look at AMERICA and think MD ...think again as the doubling seen on the letters isn't doubling at all! Its lathe lines running under the letters.....have a go research lathe lines...you'll also find that in the center of the buffalo id a small circle the center of the lathe lines....
Paddy54
11-23-2024, 10:12 PM
Still waiting on the coin to land...however another artifact noticed on the coin. One that is a pretty neat and maybe it will be the major pup for this variety. Lathe lines....at first just thought this die had been worked pretty good to resurface. As you can see quite a few file lines. However if you look at AMERICA and think MD ...think again as the doubling seen on the letters isn't doubling at all! Its lathe lines running under the letters.....have a go research lathe lines...you'll also find that in the center of the buffalo id a small circle the center of the lathe lines.... look closely had to see but its there.
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